Outgoing NPR executive Ron Schiller slams Republicans and the tea party movement and suggests that NPR would be better off without any federal funding in a hidden-camera video released Tuesday by conservative filmmaker James O'Keefe.
Schiller, president of the NPR Foundation and a senior vice president for development until just last week, appears on the tape at Georgetown's Caf Milano with NPR director of institutional giving Betsy Liley and two men--Shaughn Adeleye and Simon Templar--posing as executives from a fake Islamic organization considering a $5 million donation to the network. (See update: Schiller, expected to depart in May, is now on administrative leave).
The Daily Caller posted the 11-minute video Tuesday, as did O'Keefe's Project Veritas-a site that also includes hidden-camera investigations of other conservative targets, including teacher's unions and ACORN. (A full two-hour version is available here).
In the video, Schiller said that the current Republican Party has been "hijacked" by a group that's "not just Islamophobic, but really xenophobic" and suggests the tea party movement is comprised of some "seriously racist, racist people." You can watch the footage below: (see article)
Reply 1 : NPR
Hopefully things will change for the better down there at NPR.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/blog-post/2011/03/npr_ceo_vivian_shiller_resigns.html?wpisrc=nl_natlalert
NPR announced on its site that Vivian Schiller has resigned. The CEO of NPR came under criticism last year for the dismissal of Juan Williams, a former employee who was fired after making comments about Muslims on a Fox News show.
Tuesday an undercover video of NPR executive Ron Schiller (no relation to Vivian Schiller) brought more negative press to the network. In the video Ron Schiller can be seen saying "tea party people" aren't "just Islamophobic, but really xenophobic, I mean basically they are, they believe in sort of white, middle-America gun-toting. I mean, it's scary. They're seriously racist, racist people."
Williams appeared on Sean Hannity's Fox News show on Tuesday criticizing his former employers. "These people [NPR executives] are so rude and condescending," Williams said. "They attack anybody that disagrees with their point of view -- this elitist, NPR point of view."
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/blog-post/2011/03/npr_ceo_vivian_shiller_resigns.html?wpisrc=nl_natlalert
NPR announced on its site that Vivian Schiller has resigned. The CEO of NPR came under criticism last year for the dismissal of Juan Williams, a former employee who was fired after making comments about Muslims on a Fox News show.
Tuesday an undercover video of NPR executive Ron Schiller (no relation to Vivian Schiller) brought more negative press to the network. In the video Ron Schiller can be seen saying "tea party people" aren't "just Islamophobic, but really xenophobic, I mean basically they are, they believe in sort of white, middle-America gun-toting. I mean, it's scary. They're seriously racist, racist people."
Williams appeared on Sean Hannity's Fox News show on Tuesday criticizing his former employers. "These people [NPR executives] are so rude and condescending," Williams said. "They attack anybody that disagrees with their point of view -- this elitist, NPR point of view."
Reply 2 : NPR
... and Schiller should be canned.
However, the methodology used to get the goods on Schiller is something that you were recently condemning. How do you reconcile your approval of this methodology now with your condemnation then?
However, the methodology used to get the goods on Schiller is something that you were recently condemning. How do you reconcile your approval of this methodology now with your condemnation then?
Reply 3 : NPR
Did he do an identity theft? I don't see any relationship between what you claim and what I said then.
Reply 4 : NPR
Saying "pretending to be another person" can be taken two wars, Grim. If you had trouble with your computer and someone with no computer experience at all said they headed a computer company that in reality didn't exist and communicated with you about your situation you could say that they pretended to be another person- someone with computer expertise. But if some Joe Blow communicated with you about that situation saying that he was Steve Wozniak, you might say that he was pretending to be another person, but that action could be better described as "impersonation".
In the case at hand, the person could have used his actual name for all we know, but the pretending was not his identity, but the reality of the organization he represented.
It's like in the other thread to which you referred. When the person called Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker, they pretended to be somebody else specifically, billionaire David Koch. That was impersonation.
In the case at hand, the person could have used his actual name for all we know, but the pretending was not his identity, but the reality of the organization he represented.
It's like in the other thread to which you referred. When the person called Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker, they pretended to be somebody else specifically, billionaire David Koch. That was impersonation.
Reply 5 : NPR
So tell me J... just what is the meaning of "is" ?
Reply 6 : NPR
You are smart enough to understand the difference between identity theft (which is, btw, illegal) and time honored (if deceptive) investigative techniques which are often legal even if they are deceptive.
Don't pretend to be stupid.
Don't pretend to be stupid.
Reply 7 : NPR
You approve entrapment then?
Whether it is "entrapment" as defined in law or not, it is still entrapment.
It is often used here in the UK against personalities, royals, politicians and so on, and is much reviled. If it is used as purely investigative journalism to gather evidence and information in public interest cases such as criminality, social issues, or the like, then fine. But it seems nowadays that no-one can afford to say anything bad about anyone in private without some creep or other spilling the beans.
I think that's sad.
And using 'stupid' against grim? An incorrect term may have been used, but the meaning was clear.
What is it with you guys that you "pick up on" every little error and blow it out of all proportion? Don't you ever make mistakes?
Please, more consideration!
Mark
Whether it is "entrapment" as defined in law or not, it is still entrapment.
It is often used here in the UK against personalities, royals, politicians and so on, and is much reviled. If it is used as purely investigative journalism to gather evidence and information in public interest cases such as criminality, social issues, or the like, then fine. But it seems nowadays that no-one can afford to say anything bad about anyone in private without some creep or other spilling the beans.
I think that's sad.
And using 'stupid' against grim? An incorrect term may have been used, but the meaning was clear.
What is it with you guys that you "pick up on" every little error and blow it out of all proportion? Don't you ever make mistakes?
Please, more consideration!
Mark
Reply 8 : NPR
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entrapment
Reply 9 : NPR
someone is comparing apples and oranges, why throw a banana in the mix?
Why not attempt to explain the difference between an apple and an orange?
Why not attempt to explain the difference between an apple and an orange?
Reply 10 : NPR
Mark, entrapment is a legal term and certain requires must be present. You see it mentioned a lot of times with police action. For example, law enforcement sometimes sets up a "fake" fencing operation, recording people who come in to sell items. When somebody comes in and sells something that the police can prove is stolen property, they have them. This is not entrapment, and is quite legal.
If a reporter or some other civilian gets information, there is a problem trying to call it entrapment as is sometimes done in law enforcement cases. To entrap, you have to come introduce the idea of the crime, and then persuade the person to commit the crime.
In the ACORN case, they helped people find apartments. No problem with that. But when the reporter said he was a pimp and the girl a prostitute looking for a place to "set up shop", The ACORN representative should have stopped right there. Instead, the ACORN representative came up with ways for them to do so.
If a reporter or some other civilian gets information, there is a problem trying to call it entrapment as is sometimes done in law enforcement cases. To entrap, you have to come introduce the idea of the crime, and then persuade the person to commit the crime.
In the ACORN case, they helped people find apartments. No problem with that. But when the reporter said he was a pimp and the girl a prostitute looking for a place to "set up shop", The ACORN representative should have stopped right there. Instead, the ACORN representative came up with ways for them to do so.
Reply 11 : NPR
and you know it.
We're talking about gutter journalism here, people posing to be what they are not, specifically so they can trap their victims. I don't know who Shaughn Adeleye and Simon Templar are, but they deliberately set out to trap, report expose and embarrass.
I will call it entrapment. You call it as you will.
And for the record, I don't take political sides here. I don't know anything about this NPR or James O'Keefe, and I am not interested. I am offended by the methods used. So often used in the UK nowadays by sneaky and creepy reporters, who do it for sensationalism only.
Mark
We're talking about gutter journalism here, people posing to be what they are not, specifically so they can trap their victims. I don't know who Shaughn Adeleye and Simon Templar are, but they deliberately set out to trap, report expose and embarrass.
I will call it entrapment. You call it as you will.
And for the record, I don't take political sides here. I don't know anything about this NPR or James O'Keefe, and I am not interested. I am offended by the methods used. So often used in the UK nowadays by sneaky and creepy reporters, who do it for sensationalism only.
Mark
Reply 12 : NPR
How you feel about something is your business. But when you apply certain specific words to an action, you are accusing them of a specific crime. Words like entrapment or impersonation have a legal definition, and use of them imply commission of a crime.
Reply 13 : NPR
posing as executives from a fake Islamic organization considering a $5 million donation to the network
$5mill is no incentive to do/say what someone wants to done/heard.
$5mill is no incentive to do/say what someone wants to done/heard.
Reply 14 : NPR
... and certain requirements must be present.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=safari&rls=en&defl=en&q=define:identity+theft&sa=X&ei=6jF5TcGEOemW0QHBvu3wAw&ved=0CBgQkAE
Essentially identity theft constitutes using official identification documents and records of a different individual in order to commit a crime for financial gain or to frame another for a crime of violence.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=safari&rls=en&defl=en&q=define:identity+theft&sa=X&ei=6jF5TcGEOemW0QHBvu3wAw&ved=0CBgQkAE
Essentially identity theft constitutes using official identification documents and records of a different individual in order to commit a crime for financial gain or to frame another for a crime of violence.
Reply 15 : NPR
O.K., Grim, Identity theft is a legal term. In my post I was talking about Entrapment, a different legal term. I'm not really sure why you brought up Identity Theft in response to that post.
Reply 16 : NPR
Know who he was???
Reply 17 : NPR
Relax, have a hot dog or mystery meat sandwich and remember your old lessons in school - it may come to you (grin).
Reply 18 : NPR
If you did know, then you would understand "time honored investigative techniques"
Reply 19 : NPR
a man with every gift except humor and silence
A man with no sense of humour and wouldn't shut up?
A man with no sense of humour and wouldn't shut up?
Reply 20 : NPR
He ran as a Socialist candidate for Congress.............
Sinclair's platform, known as the End Poverty in California movement (EPIC), galvanized the support of the Democratic Party, and Sinclair gained its nomination.................
Conservatives considered his proposal an attempted communist takeover of their state and quickly opposed him, using propaganda to portray Sinclair as a staunch communist.........................
"The American People will take Socialism, but they won't take the label. I certainly proved it in the case of EPIC. Running on the Socialist ticket I got 60,000 votes, and running on the slogan to 'End Poverty in California' I got 879,000. I think we simply have to recognize the fact that our enemies have succeeded in spreading the Big Lie. There is no use attacking it by a front attack, it is much better to out-flank them."[19]...........
Sinclair's platform, known as the End Poverty in California movement (EPIC), galvanized the support of the Democratic Party, and Sinclair gained its nomination.................
Conservatives considered his proposal an attempted communist takeover of their state and quickly opposed him, using propaganda to portray Sinclair as a staunch communist.........................
"The American People will take Socialism, but they won't take the label. I certainly proved it in the case of EPIC. Running on the Socialist ticket I got 60,000 votes, and running on the slogan to 'End Poverty in California' I got 879,000. I think we simply have to recognize the fact that our enemies have succeeded in spreading the Big Lie. There is no use attacking it by a front attack, it is much better to out-flank them."[19]...........
Reply 21 : NPR
I keep hearing the term over and over. Would someone please define it and give examples.
Is public education socialism?
Is fire and police service socialism?
Is trash pickup socialism?
Is the emergency room socialism?
Is social security socialism?
Is universal health care socialism?
Is Medicare/Medicaid socialism?
Is WIC socialism?
Is welfare socialism?
Is food stamps socialism?
Is public transportation socialism?
Is unemployment socialism?
Is disability socialism?
You get the idea. Tell me.
Diana
Is public education socialism?
Is fire and police service socialism?
Is trash pickup socialism?
Is the emergency room socialism?
Is social security socialism?
Is universal health care socialism?
Is Medicare/Medicaid socialism?
Is WIC socialism?
Is welfare socialism?
Is food stamps socialism?
Is public transportation socialism?
Is unemployment socialism?
Is disability socialism?
You get the idea. Tell me.
Diana
Reply 22 : NPR
What's your is mine and what's mine is mine, especially if yours is more than mine. That's the essence of Socialism.
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